JSPC NewsJust a reminder that the annual Multi Gun Match takes place on 16th and 17th February.
For those of you who missed last year’s inaugural event this comp gives you a chance to shoot CSR, GR&P and Target Shotgun in a 4 part competition being shot over the whole weekend.
Full details can be found at:
This was a hugely successful event last year and we hope to see you there.
After 4 years up at Newark the The British Shooting and Countryman Show is at Stoneleigh in Warwickshire this year.
For the last couple of years, two or three members of the GB Squad have been running a stand at the show to promote the activities of the teams and the discipline in general.
The stand is kindly donated by the show organisers free of charge. If the format of previous years is to be repeated we’ll be sharing the space with The Fifty Calibre Shooters Association and the guys from Offa’s Dyke Rifle Club, the UKBR22 benchrest guys and Vince Bottomley and co. from the on-line Target Sports magazine.
If you are at the show seek us out. We’ll have a few competition rifles and pistols on show. We’ll have hand books and rulebooks to give out . We’ll have flyers and information for all events happening throughout 2013. We’ll have some videos and slideshows showing the events we take part in. These will give anyone an overall flavour of the discipline, the competitive elements of the sport as well as something of the social side of it all.
We’ll also have a few keyrings & torches, borelights, boresighters & pointers etc – all available with nominal donations to the official Team Overseas Team Fund to help the teams travel and compete.
Feedback on this unanimously in the direction of NOT allowing competitors to adorn their targets with all and sundry. In fact its been pointed out this is just a natural extension of the general principle that competitors should not be interfering or touching their targets in any way at all.
Target numbering systems therefore become much more important. Match Directors probably need to add this to their list of things that just need to be right on the day.
Rule B14.5.2 of the GR&P handbook states: A competitor may place on their target one distinguishing mark with a maximum diameter of 100mm. It may only be placed in the extreme top right or top left corner of the backing board.
Targets should indeed be readily identifiable to the competitor. All should be numbered and all should be identically labelled for consistency and fairness.
I’m shooting at target 4 (but aiming at target 3)
As the rule states – A competitor may place on their target one distinguishing mark with a maximum diameter of 100mm. It may only be placed in the extreme top right or top left corner of the backing board.
Cross shooting is a problem – we have all done it….
Don’t shoot at my target (which one is it again – the red mark?)
Something which has been mooted since removing the ability of shooters to clearly mark their target in line with the style immediately above is the apparent return of much more cross shooting. It may be all very well saying that a shooters should be able to identify their target but the lobbying is that this isn’t happening under the current guidelines and ruleset.
The additional issue (perhaps more relevant) that a shooter who’s target has been cross shot onto can take the highest score (or choose what they prefer) makes a mockery of the level at which we are attempting to shooting at. The ‘pick and choose’ your score approach can be seen as ridiculous if the cross shooting problem is really seen as a common and regular problem which needs to be addressed yet again.
The proposal is that any shooter be allowed to attach a coloured card on their target board as long as it is less than 20cm square (double the size of the current allowable mark) and is only attached/stapled to the back of their target frame so it protrudes from the edge of the target. The argument goes that it also puts the marker in the sight line of the shooter therefore hugely reducing the chance of either them shooting someone else’s target or someone else shooting on their target. Coloured cards are easily and instantly recognised by the brain where as numbers take more computing power and need thinking about!
So – Blackpool illuminations or clean and uniform target marking. Which do we want? The former leaves it in the hands of the shooter. The latter with the match organiser. Maybe vested interests at play but when you have forked out your hard earned to attempt to get a score onto the GRID it really does need to be your score (not help from anyone else) and all counted on your target.
Regional Events 2013
The 2013 NRA Phoenix Meeting
Advertising & Sponsorship Packages
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BRONZE Advertising Package £110 Full-page black and white advert in the Phoenix Meeting booklet distributed to shooting clubs throughout the UK and at game fairs and shooting events |
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SILVER Advertising Package £265 Full-page colour advert in the Phoenix Meeting booklet distributed to shooting clubs throughout the UK and at game fairs and other shooting events. Acknowledgement to sponsor on all marketing materials including
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GOLD Sponsorship Package £575
Acknowledgement to sponsor on all marketing materials including
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*Please note that the free trade stand space is not in the Bisley Pavilion.
If you would like to discuss any of these packages, please contact
Amanda Vaughan, Events Manager on 01483 798816
or e-mail amanda.vaughan@nra.org.uk
A fair bit of discussion of the Bianchi Barricade Firing area and its absolute boundaries which was posted back in November. Bearing these comments in mind, associated with some off-line discussion, the decision has been made to essentially keep the ruling as is but ensure it is more consistently defined.
As long as at least some part of the foot or feet is touching the marked boundary behind the barricade the competitor will be declared to be within the shooting area. Refer to the graphic which shows foot positions to the left hand side of the barricade. The same criteria will apply to the right hand side.
This is contrary to the stricter definition and enforcement of the foot fault line in other events but there are are differences with the Bianchi Barricade match which have led to this decision. The main reason is this is a pistol match which we have decided to continue shooting with rifles. With barricades involved the difference between shooting around a barricade with a rifle is sufficiently different for the above foot positions to be deemed sensible.
Please note – as the rule historically stood there seemed to be a perceived difference depending on how the shooting area was actually marked and constructed. A raised boundary seemed to be treated differently to a simple painted line or similar. This is no longer the case (if ever it was). No matter how the firing area is constructed and marked the above foot rules will apply.
As has been the case for a number of seasons the rear of the barricade shooting area is unbounded and extends back to infinity.
This foot fault paradigm will also apply to the barricade stage of the Los Alamitos match.
Over the weekend of the 16th and 17th February this Match will incorporate stages for
Held on Butt Zero, Century and Short Siberia’s central turning target range.
Match Conditions and Courses of Fire
A few years ago Team events were introduced into the GRAW matches. The objective was to encourage clubs to come along and enter some of the events with that 4th person who maybe would not have entertained coming along by themselves but would come to make a club team up.
After a fairly slow start the matches started to get fairly popular and then all of a sudden over the course of a season (last season – 2012) have essentially died a death.
Decisions will have to be made fairly soon because if nobody is going to enter we may as well pull them from the peripheral meetings (that means SAW) and just keep them maybe for the Phoenix. Appetite even at the Nationals last year seemed lacklustre.
Comment back, let me know, email me, Tweet me, Facebook me – whatever… Otherwise I’ll be making this decision myself and I’ll probably get it wrong. Please don’t tell me I told you so after the event.
The Mander Trophy
The 2013 Imperial Gallery Rifle and Pistol section of the Bisley Bible is now in final draft
The section is available in PDF Format.
There have been some fairly minor changes this year:
The NRA shooting committee will finalise all sections of the Bible , including section 4, the GR&P booklet, at the January meeting of Shooting Committee which is on 24th January 2012. Comments are still theoretically possible.
Full details in the P&GR section of the Bisley Bible
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SWINGBALL STEELS ACTION
A proposal for a competition for two people, shooting against each other.
Got no mates? Don’t worry – we’ll pair you up with another shooter – you may even meet someone you like better than yourself!!
Proposed cost £8.00 per pair
Course of Fire
On the beep shoot the targets on your side of the tree over to your opponents side, and continue to do so until either
All of the targets are on your opponents side of the tree.
(the RO will call a win as and when this occurs)
OR
Time expires. the competitor who has the least number of steels his side wins.
At the end of a run the loser will shoot back the excess steels of his choice to his opponents side ready for the next run. In the event of there being an equal number of steels each side that is a draw.
In the case of a draw at the end of the five runs then we go to sudden death.
Swingball steels
We”ve been asked to change some standards breakpoints. The following events have been highlighted below which have been suggested require review. Standards have an effect on the Phoenix grandmaster medal claims.
Any comments or any other events which people consider incorrect or please get in touch.
0121 – 25m LBP – NEW TARGETS INTRODUCED
[table]
2012,2013
xx,210
xx,200
xx,190
[/table]
0301 – 50m GRSB – INCREASED
[table]
2012,2013
285,288
280,284
275,280
[/table]
0321 – 50m LBP – REDUCED
[table]
2012,2013
260, 240
240, 230
220, 220
[/table]
0322 – 50m LBR – REDUCED
[table]
2012,2013
250,240
240,230
230,220
[/table]
0522 – America Match LBR – REDUCED
[table]
2012,2013
270,260
260,250
250,240
[/table]
0904 – T&P2 Classic – INCREASED
[table]
2012,2013
580,585
575,580
570,575
[/table]
1304 – Phoenix A Classic – INCREASED
[table]
2012,2013
188,190
185,188
180,184
[/table]
3336 – BDMP Cup – Semi-Auto – INCREASED
[table]
2012,2013
116,118
112,116
108,114
[/table]
4902 – Surrenden – GRCF – NEW EVENT
[table]
2012,2013
xxx,255
xxx,250
xxx,245
[/table]
4903 – Surrenden – Open – NEW EVENT
[table]
2012,2013
xxx,250
xxx,245
xxx,240
[/table]
4904 – Surrenden – Classic – NEW EVENT
[table]
2012,2013
xxx,245
xxx,240
xxx,235
[/table]
5301 – 100/200m GRSB – INCREASED
[table]
2012,2013
86,90
82,86
78,82
[/table]
5985 – 400/500/600 FTR – NEW EVENT
[table]
2012,2013
xxx,220
xxx,210
xxx,200
[/table]
6185 – 800/900/1000 FTR – NEW EVENT
[table]
2012,2013
xxx,220
xxx,215
xxx,210
[/table]
A fair bit of feedback on the Multi-Target walkdown proposal. Most of it in favour of at least having the option. Even if your friendly match director does not take the opportunity of the potential flexibility this offers you can only lead a horse to water….
However flexibility does bring complexity and it was pointed out that a consistent scoring and countback mechanism was needed if this was to fly. Stats crews do have their own grumbles in this area. Believe me – algorithmic tangles will lead to disgruntlement in more places than the stats office.
So in order to offer the flexibility required a new score card is proposed which places slightly more emphasis on both shooter and Range Officer on the point and on the day.
Countback methodologies for many GR&P events when ties on bullet scores and X counts exist start with the furthest distance first mechanism. The theory is – shots from the furthest distances are counted with highest regard so ties can be effectively broken if recursed in this way.
In the case of a multi-target walkdown we are faced with the problem of breaking ties with 12 shots on each target. We no longer have the luxury of knowing when those shots were placed. The left hand target has 75% of its shots from the 25 and 20m lines so we have some leverage there.We can split ties on the left hand target perhaps. Recall, we are looking for operational flexibility, to be combined with statistical ease of computation. Hence the following proposal:
A new scorecard for the Multi-Target match which will record scores for either a Staged procedure or a Walkdown procedure. The countback process for whichever method will be as follows:
Using the new proposed scorecard stats crews will simply enter the left and right hand bullet counts into their difference engines. Competitors will have to do a little more work at the target depending on how the match was shot. At most – all shooters probably need to add up to 12, else ROs will.
We now end up with a consistent and feasible method of breaking ties however the match is shot based simply on a left and right hand target bullet count.
Comments – as usual – welcome.
Proposed Multi-Target Scorecard
At the Phoenix Meeting there are events specifically for the .303 rifle.
The .303 Rifle class is at present ‘Any .303 Rifle’. Its probably hard to justify the fact that it is fair to have people shooting ‘As issued Rifles‘ competing alongside shooters who have fitted telescopic sights and bipods.
In fact it seems grossly unfair…….
So – one suggestion is to split the current .303 class into three.
OK – this is fine in theory but the obvious problem here is the event is now being sliced into three and this may be a bit thin. The HBSA declares two classes – issued sights and the rest. Another option is to widen slightly this and separate into two classes of any iron sights (shot using a sling and no other support) and any rifle using any sights and any type of support – bipods/sandbags/axle stands etc.
There is also a request to consider a .303 aggregate. What do people think? Is the .303 being ringfenced a little too much here? Can’t the .303 just be lumped in with any other legacy military calibre rather than kept separate and isolated? This would solve the potential salami slicing of the event too thinly if nothing else!
Any comments on these points or anything else?
For the following Events shot at the Phoenix and some of the the GRAW weekends.
200 yds RIFLE – event numbers 6380, 6381, 6382, 6391
The current rules states:
Single point slings and shooting gloves are not allowed and although shooting jackets may be used they were not to be used to attach to slings etc. The course of fire is currently:
So – overall the ethos of this competition as it currently stands is as lightweight and simple as possible – free of any support or bracing aids.
However we have received some comments and suggestions that bipods, rests or bags should be allowable in his competition.
Its open for comment. What do people think?
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