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RO Christmas Shoot Cancelled

Since I wrote to you last with the results of the responses to my request for opinions about the Range Officers’ Christmas shoot held in January, a couple of things have become clear.

The majority of those who responded were in favour of carrying on with the Christmas shoot and dinner.  However, the numbers involved are pretty small and well below those needed to have it properly catered.  A lot of effort is put in to hold this day and the number of people is benefitting from it is decreasing.

Just to make matters worse, I have now heard from some of you who might have come and now cannot because of a clash of dates with another event.

In view of this, I have decided to cancel the 19th January as this seems the only thing to do.  I am sorry if this is a disappointment but I’m sure you’ll agree this is the sensible course to take.

On the positive side, this now gives us an opportunity to organise something else which I hope a lot more of you will be able to benefit from.  Please do let me have your thoughts and suggestions at the usual address (chris.farr@nra.org.uk).

Best wishes for Christmas and the New Year to you all

Chris

Christmas RO Shoot

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Christmas Range Officers Shoot

Chistmas RO Shoot

This now confirmed in its usual format for Saturday 19th January.

More details in the Calendar.

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Standards

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Standards

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Event standards are set out in the GR&P and Phoenix booklet. They are set for most events.

At the Phoenix Meeting  gold, silver and bronze standards are allocated points and all competitors are eligible for a Grand Master  Standards medal by accumulating an appropriate number of points.

The current Grand Master achievement score is 20 point based on the following allocation

  • Bronze Standard: 1 point
  • Silver standard: 3 points
  • Gold standard: 5 points

Standards breakpoints are reviewed every year but nobody has the time to plough through years worth of  data or annual results  to make sure all these standards are completely 100% accurate and fair.  This would be nigh on impossible in any case and they are only really supposed to be a bit of fun. Obvious errors, omissions and updates are addressed and anything pointed out will be looked at.

A few standards were changed for the 2012 season. As a result some data was collected mainly to review how the Open and Classic Gallery Rifle events  introduced in to the 2010 season were progressing.

The following spreadsheet contains this data.  Its not an exhaustive list. As can be seen a few events are proposed to be tweaked for next year as indicated.

Standards Comparisons 

If anyone has anything they thing needs looking at or if they think any standards are wildly inconsistent please let me know.

Site Mobilized

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Mobile Detect

Additional stylesheets and CSS has been installed to make the site mobile friendly. It should auto-detect the device you are coming from and deliver an appropriate mobile friendly set of pages. If you browse or visit the site from a mobile phone or equivalent device you will get the mobile version of the site.

Please note – I’ve tagged  tablet devices as mobile devices. Even with a a 10″ tablet its nowhere near the likes of the defacto standard  24″ retina display most of us have on our desktops these days :-).

Anyone who wants to switch to browsing the ‘standard’ site can easily so so. Just follow the appropriate pointers on the mobile site  (scroll to the bottom).

No excuses not to keep up.

Sans Alibi

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Malfunction Allowances

sans-alibiAbout 4 years ago we decided to migrate a few events into the GR&P event portfolio from other similar meetings. These were more ISSF oriented events and the conditions and standards associated with these events were different.

The events were imported without modification and the special conditions associated with the appropriate courses of fire were kept intact. The main difference between the two tranches of conditions are to do with malfunction allowances.  GR&P events tend to be shot ‘without alibi‘. In other words there is no allowance for malfunctions.

If something goes wrong its down to the shooter to solve the problem within the time constraints of the competition. Sometimes easy – sometimes not. Its all down to the what happens on the day – Sans alibi, C’est la vie.

The events migrated, and the ones which the current GR&P rule book allows for malfunctions, are as follows:

  • Event 23: 25m Timed
  • Event 25: Sport Pistol
  • Event 27: Standard Pistol
  • Event 43: Granet
  • Event 45: Scott
  • Event 47: Imperial Silhouettes

The proposal is to withdraw the Malfunction Allowance for these events so they align with all the other events within the Gallery Rifle & Pistol event set.

As always – comments and feedback welcome.

Modifications to the Los Alamitos Match

Los Alamitos

Although Los Alamitos isn’t often shot at Bisley  it has been  an alternative match that has been used if the Mover is not available.  Its also shot at Mattersey and was actually offered as a stand alone event in 2012

The current COF has evolved from the pistol days, but not necessarily consistently, or taking into account range restrictions. Hence the modifications suggested below.

These changes will:

  • Allow for a 48 round COF, instead of 42. Thus, it maintains the round count when substituted for the Mover. (although can’t be seen as a record score for the whole match).
  • Takes into account the ‘minimum 10 metre rule’, applicable to a lot of ranges (especially Bisley, where shooting at 7m exposes the shooter to risk of ‘on metal’ ricochets from the target frames.
  • Spreads the challenge across more distances – the original was very 7 / 10 metre centric.

NOTE – this will change both times and distances for the match.

Existing Course of Fire Suggested Course of Fire
Stages 1-5 of this match are shot standing unsupported.Stage 6 is shot standing supported by the barricade.

Stage 1

  • 7 metres 3 seconds 2 shots on centre target
  • 3 seconds 2 shots on right target
  • 3 seconds 2 shots on left target

 

 

Stage 2

  • 7 metres 5 seconds 2 shots on each target

 

 

Stage 3

  • 7 metres 6 seconds 2 shots on each target,
  • strong hand/shoulder

 

Stage 4

  • 7 metres 10 seconds 2 shots on each target,
  • LBP, LBR: weak hand freestyle
  • GRCF, GRSB: weak shoulder

 

 

 

Stage 5

  • 10 metres 18 seconds 2 shots on each target
  • LBP, LBR, GRSB: reload
  • GRCF: reload with a minimum of 2 rounds
  • 2 shots on each target,
  • LBP, LBR: weak hand freestyle, GRCF, GRSB: weak shoulder

Stage 6

  • 25 metres 10 seconds 2 shots on each target, right side of barricade
  • 10 seconds 2 shots on each target, left side of barricade
Stages 1-5 of this match are shot standing unsupported.Stage 6 is shot standing behind the barricade (using it for cover and support). Foot faults will apply. Start for  LBP, LBR: from the Holster, with hands above shoulders.

Stage 1

  • 10 metres 3 Separate exposures of 3 Secs, 10 Seconds away time
  • LBP, LBR: to re-holster between exposures, safety re-applied.
  • 3 seconds 2 shots on centre tgt.
  • 3 seconds 2 shots on right tgt.
  • 3 seconds 2 shots on left tgt.

Stage 2

  • 10 metres One exposure of 6 seconds – 2 shots on each target
  • LBP, LBR: Strong hand only (i.e. NOT supported by weak hand)

 

Stage 3

  • 10 metres One exposure of 10 seconds – 2 shots on each target,
  • LBP, LBR: weak hand freestyle (i.e. supported by strong hand)
  • GRCF, GRSB: weak shoulder

Stage 4

  • 10 metres One exposure of 18 seconds – 2 shots on each target freestyle
  • LBP, LBR, GRSB: reload
  • GRCF: reload with a minimum of 2 rounds
  • 2 shots on each target,
  • LBP, LBR: weak hand freestyle (i.e. supported by strong hand). GRCF, GRSB: weak shoulder

 

Stage 5

  • 15 metres One exposure of 8 seconds – 2 shots on each target freestyle

 

Stage 6

  • 25 metres 10 seconds 2 shots on each target, right side of barricade
  • Reload in slow time
  • 10 seconds 2 shots on each target, left side of barricade

Round the Barricade

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Round the Barricade

t-p barricadeMore on barricades…….

It may seem we are obsessed with barricades and shooting around them (hopefully not through them) but they do form a fairly major part in events such as Bianchi, 1500 and the T&P2 and 3 matches.

On the range (any range) we generally use posts,  mainly for pragmatic reasons in the likes of  1500 and T&P.  In these events any use of the word ‘barricade’ is essentially translated in real life to a post.  In fact it states in the rule book the barricade should be “a wooden post of square or rectangular section and at least 100mm square and 2m in height“.

The point of the barricade is competitors shoot around it. Elsewhere we have already discussed foot fault lines and the fact that these should be perpendicular to the appropriate offside edge of the barricade. Equally the front facing edge of the barricade – the side facing the targets – also represents the ‘foot’ fault line. No part of the competitors body may pass the front face of the barricade.

A mentioned use of a real life post on the range is representative. Imagine shooting to the left hand side of this barricade as illustrated above. In this case the “barricade” actually extends to the right of the shooter like a wall or barrier. Ditto when the competitor is shooting on the right hand side – it extends to the left.

What is the point being made? Well – it has been noticed some competitors are making use of the fact that the barricade is being provisioned as a square post and are wrapping their non shooting arm around the post to be able to grab the barrel or other part of the pistol or revolver when shooting. This breaks the rules anyway as part of their arm will be forward of the fault line which is the leading edge of the post. However it also breaks the spirit of what the post is representing.

I’m afraid this rule will be clarified and enforced next season. Anybody who has got into the habit of  making use of this style of shooting has the winter to readjust.

Comments – as always – welcome.

Or Contribute Even….?

OK – so signing up to these things is a pain.  Posts on Galleryrifle.com will continue and a few more which will be published before the start of the next season really do require feedback from the GR&P community.  All I do, mainly, is collate and communicate what I’ve been asked to consider.

The close season is now upon us so a few weeks spent trying to work out what to do for next year is the aspiration.

Facebook seems to have won the current battle of the bytes and with close to a sixth of the planet’s population having accounts on their platform we may as well leverage it. You need to login to contribute to Galleryrifle.com.  You can now do this by simply piggybacking on your universally hated  Facebook account (which everyone seems to have at least one of).

Its easy – click the obvious and follow your nose. If anyone wants to elevate their privileges to anything more than a commentator just let me know.

Bianchi Firing Areas

In a couple of the matches in the Bianchi competition the rules define designated firing areas. In the Moving Target match this is a 3 foot square firing area at each distance of the 60 foot run of the target. In the barricades match it is a 2 foot wide firing area extending back to infinity on the “up range” side of the barricade – which is also 2 foot wide.

Competitors are not allowed to stand or step outside these areas when shooting. In the Procedural Penalties section of the Bianchi rules (GR&P Rule Book) it states:

In addition ot the usual procedural penalties, the following apply in this event:

c. Firing a shot while a part of the foot is touching the ground outside the designated firing area.

bianchi-barricades

What does this actually mean? Well simply put you cannot have your foot over the line marking the designated firing area. Well – apparently not – but read the rule again – “while a part of the foot is touching the ground…” are the pertinent words….

 This only really applies to the way we are interpreting the rules in the Barricade match and mostly only at Bisley. The Barricades are built in a similar fashion as illustrated on the left.  The designated shooting area is build using angle iron – this is the area you are not supposed to step out of. However because of the wording of the rule above the Barricade match is being shot by many competitors with their foot or feet standing on the angle iron and because they are not actually touching the ground they are deemed inside the area.

Is this how we are supposed to be shooting it?  Are the boundaries of the shooting area behind the barricade supposed to be in the spirit of a Support and Cover boundary similar to the issue discussed for T&P2/T&P3 elsewhere? Or is the shooting area supposed to be a slightly raised platform which as long as you keep your feet on in some way acceptable?

Other ranges and venues host Bianchi matches and their barricade set-ups may simply be lines painted or marked on the ground. In these cases can the foot be placed onto the line as long as at least some part of it is still touching the line? If that is not the case consistency is not being achieved!

This rule needs to be much clearly defined – specifically for the barricade match. Which is it to be?

  1. No part of the foot to cross the line –  similar to the T&P2/3 rules suggested.
  2. Fine if at least some part of the foot touching the line.
Feedback on this, especially from Bianchi shooters, is required.

T&P3 Loading

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T&P3 Loading – The Rules

PocketsThe loading rules for T&P3 state:

Loading:
All ammunition must be carried on the competitor’s person in a pocket (i.e. belt  loops, pouches, etc. cannot be used).

Please note the highlighting above which is mine. The unique point of this particular event is that reloading is done from a standard off the peg jacket or coat pocket. Nothing fancy either required, wanted or necessary. Competitors have five and a half minutes to shoot the course of fire loading appropriate magazines or speedloaders as they go. Five and a half minutes which is plenty of time to do any amount of reloading from loose collections of pocketed ammunition for a 50 round course of fire.

Additionally we have the following loading rule:

Any number of magazines, speedloaders or moon-clips may be used but only one  may be pre-loaded (with 5 rounds).

As discussed elsewhere this was to allow some leeway to competitors on that basis that any magazine or speedloader dropped was deemed lost – therefore spares could be carried.

We’ve been shooting the event for about five years now so its time for the rules to be clarified and tidied up. The following is proposed:

Remove this condition:

Any number of magazines, speedloaders or moon-clips may be used but only one  may be pre-loaded (with 5 rounds).

Replace with

Only two magazines, speedloaders or moon-clips may be used either or both of which  may be pre-loaded (with no more than 5 rounds) at any time.

This rule:

All ammunition must be carried on the competitor’s person in a pocket (i.e. belt  loops, pouches, etc. cannot be used).

to be tightened up.  People are using very loose definitions of “a pocket”. A pocket is something you can get your hand into and move your fingers around inside, clench your fist within, grab a handful of stuff that is in there – in this case rounds of ammunition!

A pocket can be a pouch attached to a belt – as long as its of loose fabric and you can get your hand in there and your ammunition is loose within the pouch this is OK.

There should be no artificial sleeves or  holders or stiffeners or any type of device that holds magazines, moon clips or speed loaders in any particular position or orientation. If you can’t get your hand into your ‘pocket’ and shuffle around whatever is in there – its not a pocket – therefore its not allowed.

 

Its Dead Jim….

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In T&P2 and T&P3 anyway….

Rule A3.3.2 in the GR&P Rulebook states:

A3.3.2  During a course of fire a round or magazine may be retrieved from  the ground if dropped, or taken from the competitor’s equipment if on the ground,  only if they have unloaded their firearm, locked it open and it is kept pointing at  the target while retrieving the round or magazine. They may not leave the firing  point for this purpose.

Its a safety rule, nothing more. It appears in some instances this is getting misinterpreted with Course of Fire (CoF) or specific event procedural rules such as the ones which exist in T&P3.

Under the Reloading section of the T&P3 event conditions it states:

After the initial order to load, all further loading must be with rounds taken from  the competitor’s person. It is the competitor’s responsibility to have sufficient  ammunition in their possession to complete the match or event. A dropped round,  magazine, moon clip or speedloader may not be retrieved.

For T&P2, under Reloading, it states:

After the initial order to load, all further loading must be with rounds taken from  the competitor’s pocket, cartridge belt, mechanical loader, special pouch or  elsewhere on the competitor’s person. It is the competitor’s responsibility to have  sufficient ammunition in their possession to complete the match or event.

It is proposed the two events are brought into a closer conceptual alignment by adding the statement:

A dropped round,  magazine, moon clip or speedloader may not be retrieved

as an event condition for T&P2 as well.

Essentially anything ending up on the floor when shooting either of these two events is dead, out of bounds,  irretrievable and considered lost.

Object now or it enters the rule book for next season.

 

Use of Barricades – Support and Foot Fault lines?

One area of clarification which is often asked of your friendly RO on the line is whether  the barricade can be used for support – to lean on. In some cases it can but a related question usually follows regarding where the foot fault line is as well.  This only applies to LBRs and LBPs so rifle shooters at this point can stand down.

Barricades (posts) are used in the following competitions:

  • T&P2
  • T&P3
  • The 1500

Potential uses are indicated in the sketches below. Essentially if a strict foot fault line is specified an imaginary line projects perpendicular to the firing line backwards.  The competitor’s feet (as indicated below but equally applies to any other part of their lower body)  much not traverse the leading edge of that line.

For the events listed above each  is subtly different so this post is an attempt to clarify or solicit opinion on how to obtain consistency.

The easy one is the 1500 – its mostly defined. Event specific procedural penalties (PP53 current GR&P Booklet)  states:

c.  For LBP and LBR, when using the barricade, allowing any part of
a foot to extend over the foot fault line extending to the rear of the
barricade at 90 degrees to the firing line. In the left hand barricade position, no part of the foot may extend to the left of the foot fault line and vice versa.

This specifically mentions a foot but the intent for cover and support is already there. A simple rewording of the above to “ allowing any part of  the foot, knee or leg to extend over the foot fault line” will make this clearer. The 1500 also allows the barricade to be used in the kneeling position at 50m.  The fault line will again be clearly defined.

For T&P2 and T&P3 the courses of fire do not mention foot fault lines when using the barricade.  Additionally T&P2 does not mention use of the barricade in the kneeling position at 50m. To strive for consistency the following amendments are proposed:


T&P2:

Add to Procedural Penalties – event specific:

c.  For LBP and LBR, when using the barricade, allowing any part of  a foot, knee or leg to extend over the foot fault line extending to the rear of the barricade at 90 degrees to the firing line. In the left hand barricade position, no part of the foot may extend to the left of the foot fault line and vice versa.


T&P3

Add to Procedural Penalties – event specific:

c.  For LBP and LBR, when using the barricade, allowing any part of  a foot, knee or leg to extend over the foot fault line extending to the rear of the  barricade at 90 degrees to the firing line. In the left hand barricade position, no part of the foot may extend to the left of the foot fault line and vice versa.

 

As usual comments are welcome……

T&P3 Record Scores

Timed and Precision 3 Record Scores

Somebody pointed out the other week (and apparently last year) that the Phoenix Booklet did not contain any record scores for the Timed and Precision 3 match.

For those unfamiliar, T&P3 tends only to be run at the Spring and Autumn meetings at Bisley –  although Derby have also offered the event at their open meeting over the last couple of seasons.

 

T&P3 is an LBP and LBR only event. The full course of fire can be found in the GR&P handbook.

Trawling through the stats going back to 2008 the record scores for the T&P2 are below.

 

Event 1021 – Long Barrelled Pistol

Name Meeting Score
Mike Chinery Nationals, Bisley 2012 248
Philip Stead Autumn Action, Bisley 2012 248
Chris West Derby 2012 248

 

Event 1022 – Long Barrelled Revolver

Name Meeting Score
Pete Watts Spring Action, Bisley 2008 245

The Multi-Target Match

Procedure for Shooting

It has been proposed that event organisers and match directors should have the option of running the Multi-Target match as a ‘walkdown’. This meaning each of the four 6 shot practices should be shot back to back and the whole match scored just once at the end of the process.

Recall the course of fire for the Multi-Target match – generally shot in 4 practices as below:  Competitors are scored and patched after each practice.

  1. Practice 1  25m: 6 shots LHT in 15 secs
  2. Practice 2 20m: 3 shots on each target in 10 secs
  3. Practice 3 15m: 3 sec exposures for 2 shots per exposure on the RHT
  4. Practice 4 at 10m: 3 shots on each target in 8 secs

It is a fairly short course of fire – just 24 shots in all and making use of up to six target faces when using the traditional method of shooting it. The maximum number of shots on any one target is six.

Shot as a walkdown each target finishes with 12 shots and only two targets are used. Finding and scoring these shots is no problem.  Ties are decided on X count as usual and then either on the LHT score (majority of shots from furthest distances) or just a simple countback of 5s, 4s, 3s etc.  These parameters should be enough to determine a higher score but a further option if absolutely required would be to use outward gauging.

Some informal and smaller matches  already utilise this course of fire  and the German Open always shoots the match under these conditions. There were no ties or scoring problems in the recently held 2012 open.

On this basis there should be no issue with running classified Multi-Target matches using the ‘walkdown’  method.  There are many advantages in fact. Less targets and patches are used, the flow of the competition is more natural, scoring is easier and quicker and the whole match can be shot in less than 15 minutes.  For event organisers and match directors pushed for range time and space this method should be actively encouraged – you will get more shooters through!

Scorecards  and stats packages will have to be modified slightly to cater for the change.  Scorecards are easy to change – a combined one is shown below:

Stats experts will have to adjust forms and decision logic to allow for the results to be  input and spat out respectively. Not too hard a job for those so naturally inclined.

Comments, as usual, welcome.

Standing Unsupported – Rule B6.6.1

Rule B6.6.1 in the Gallery Rifle & Pistol Handbook relates to the standing unsupported position.

B6.6.1    Standing with gun held by one or both hands. All portions of the shooter’s clothing, body and gun must be clear of artificial support.

It is true to say a competitor complies with the intention of  this rule when they stand with both arms free of any external contact. They are truly shooting, with their arms unsupported.

It has been suggested that rule B6.1 be enhanced to explain to competitors that support  configurations of the style outlined below are unacceptable.

Unacceptable support configurations :-

  1. Locking their elbows into the body and supporting the barrel with straight fingers or clenched  fist.
  2. Locking their elbows into the body and supporting the barrel that they have added a support ‘platform’ to – similar to the facility that three positional shooters utilise.

This three positional shooters platform is about 5 inches high and bridges the  gap between the ‘locked in elbow ,arm’ and the underside of the barrel. It can be argued this ‘platform’ breaches rule A3.2.3 [1]

To some this ‘locking’ the elbow of the non trigger arm into the waist / hip shelf is gaining support and an element of stability that is not in the spirit of the rule. It has been asked if we would consider an amendment to rule B6.6.1 to outlaw this practice.

[1] A3.2.3    All devices or equipment which may facilitate shooting, but which are not mentioned specifically in these rules, or which are contrary to the spirit of these rules, are forbidden. The Meeting Director, Assistant Meeting Director or any range official shall have the right to examine any competitor’s equipment.

Comments, Thoughts?